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#12400 - 10/15/06 05:14 PM

Provide basic information first post!!!

kozloski
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Please provide enough basic information with your first post to give the guys a fighting chance to help you.
Make
Year
Model
Engine
Transmission
Symptoms
Codes
Unusual Operating Conditions
What you have tried

If you don't comply, don't expect a reply!

[This message has been edited by kozloski (edited 10-15-2006).]

Can we try bumping this post from time to time to keep it at the top?

[This message has been edited by kozloski (edited 10-15-2006).]

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#12532 - 02/07/07 10:13 PM

Re: Provide basic information first post!!!

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#12533 - 02/09/07 05:14 PM

Re: Provide basic information first post!!!

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#12534 - 02/10/07 08:45 AM

Re: Provide basic information first post!!!

Arji
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Registered: 01/22/07
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Originally posted by fearsnake:
Read the registration info when you sign up to post. Take some notes if ya got to. Everybody is real dam busy here working full time jobs and answering questions and very competent (look it up in the dictionary). Be complete with your car info, make, model, year, engine, tranny, etc. Give up codes you got, and the work or remedies you have done to try and fix. We ain't your wet mammas! And really, try to be polite. Some lately are so dam demanding and insulting, yet nobody has a clue as to what they own except a freakin Honda. So we are all are smokin crak in their minds cuz they get ignored, right Rashi. Did you ever get that I-D 10-T operation I suggested. Yeah, right it down it spells IDIOT! Dam it, I'm tryin to talk to professionals and I wait patiently for their response, but gotta wait till all the "smack boys" rage about a blown fuse (and got no clue) in the cig box and are wettin their panties cuz the're ride ain't ready for Friday night cruz. Park your shiot in the garage, hire a hooker, and wrench on it, you ungrateful fucs. Sorry, Jeff, Kozmo, Carfixer, and Others. I feel your pain. This site is so good, you can get to feelin like you need your hand held. Never needed that, but it was offered many times. Thank you. Sorry bout the rage about evewrybody demanding and never even saying a simple thank you. Guess maybe I should keep my pie hole shut and stick to my Jeep.

I am a newbie here and found that many of you regulars are very rude and insulting. I thought this was a cooperative effort. Keep in mind that some people don't know enough to provide the right info to you guys. I am a programmer and a member of a site called Experts-Exchange.com. I am one of the many programming experts that give beginners and even advanced programmers ways to solve programming problems with databases and Visual Basic. I run into this sort of thing all the time. However, I remind myself that a lot of those folks are beginners and don't know that they don't know. It's a common problem in this sort of environment. EE has a points system for experts that answer questions. As an expert you move up in 'rank' and gain more respect from those who look at your profile. I am considered a 'Sage' in that world. That is the second highest ranking on the site. Genius is the highest ranking. I got there by earning points answering questions, but most importantly, I learned that these folks are trying hard to understand and sometimes they need help figuring out what to ask. I had a real bad experience on this forum with someone being a real jerk and treating me like an idiot. I am an computer programmer as well as an electronics engineer so I'm not stupid, I just decided to learn more about my car and trying to save money. Flaming someone does no one any good and is actually counter to the purpose of this forum. I ask all you experts out there to have some patience with newbies. You had to start somewhere and they are too. I have a 'template' reply that I use that asks all the basic questions to someone who didn't provide the info needed. I just copy and paste the questions into a message and post it. It's easy to deal with beginners but most of all understanding where they are coming from is the key to helping them....if you are truly here to help and not just insult or criticize. Enough said

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#12535 - 02/10/07 09:25 AM

Re: Provide basic information first post!!!

Arji
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Originally posted by kozloski:
Please provide enough basic information with your first post to give the guys a fighting chance to help you.
Make
Year
Model
Engine
Transmission
Symptoms
Codes
Unusual Operating Conditions
What you have tried

If you don't comply, don't expect a reply!

[This message has been edited by kozloski (edited 10-15-2006).]

Can we try bumping this post from time to time to keep it at the top?

[This message has been edited by kozloski (edited 10-15-2006).]

I am a member of a site called Experts-Exchange.com. It's a site that is a community of experts in every field of computer science out there. I am one of the experts for database design and Visual Basic programming. It's very similar to this site except the experts are friendly and understand that there are beginners out there doing their best to understand programming problems and solutions. They sometimes don't know they don't know. So it's not surprising to me that folks don't provide needed information. EE uses a points system with their experts. I have earned the second highest ranking attainable. I did this by being patient and understanding that some folks are totally lost but they do need help. So I use a 'template' of basic questions for that sort of info. I just copy and paste it into my initial response to get the info I need to help them. I work full time just like the rest of you experts. I have chosen to be helpful to others because I learn just as much teaching as I do asking questions. It's of benefit to me and those I am helping. I suggest an attitude adjustment for some of you guys. If you are irritated by what you are doing, why be here in the first place. Seems a little self-defeating. However, if you are here to be helpful the you need to understand that you were once a beginner too. You also must understand that some people don't know enough to ask the right question or provide the right information. Flaming someone for not knowing what you know is not productive and is counter to the concept of this forum. I am not accusing you (kosloski) of this because you were very helpful to me with a previous post but I was treated very badly by some jerk (I won't mention names). My attitude is to post what I've learned on this site. I choose to spend the time here to learn and to be helpful to others. Isn't that what this is about. I suggest to all of you to copy the above info kosloski posted into either notepad or some other editor and save it on your desktop. If you choose to answer a question (it IS your choice), then simply copy and paste the requested info into your initial message to get what you need. If they still don't provide the info after that, then it's YOUR choice to continue or not. Flaming and insulting people is not the way to respond.

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