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98PVOYA
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posted 05-02-2006 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 98PVOYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3.3L/Auto. Scanner reads p1698 (Manufacturer Auxillary input/output). Please clarify what this means and how to fix it. I searched but can't find any answer and solution to fix it. Thanks.

Jeff Compton, it seems that you are the resident expert here based on your input and answer to the previous postings. Can you help me out? Thanks.

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jeff compton
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posted 05-02-2006 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jeff compton   Click Here to Email jeff compton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
resident expert!!lol, I'm just the poor sucker who works on caravans everyday, but seriously how's your transmission shifting,
the reason I ask is because your code is a communication loss code between the TCM and the other module(s). It's not uncommon for the wiring problems to develop in the harness that runs from the PCM in frt of the battery to the TCM on the Pass side inner fender. Look around where the harness is tie strapped to the trans pan. it's commonfor the wires to break or be fullof water especially after somebody has had the pan off or the tranny has been removed for repair. Can also be a wiring problem right at the PCM or TCM connector or the TCM itself
although not as likely as a wiring issue.
when communication is lost the transmission will go into limp mode which is 2nd gear and stay there. Sometimes it will come back every time the van is shut off. Not an easy fix but on the plus side not an overly expensive one if you're gonna tackle it yourself. You'll need a scanner that will give you input and output speed sensor readings and a wiring diagram. TCM's should be reasonably cheap used or even new, not sure haven't priced one in forever and the wrecking yard are full of them and even the connector(s) should they be required

good luck and keep me postted

My email is jeffsmopar@yahoo.ca should you need me

cheers

Jeff

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98PVOYA
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posted 05-03-2006 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 98PVOYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are a very humble man. Thanks for your quick, direct, specific and very helpful response. I'll check what you recommended and I will let you know.

I have not notice anything on the shifting on the transmission or may not paying attention to it. Besides, I had not driven it over a month because I'm fixing the lower intake gasket and oil pan gasket. This will take time because I only work on it here and there usually a couple hours during the weekend. So it's been dead on my driveway over a month. Once I'm done, I will test drive it and I will let you know if we fixed it. Again, Thank you.

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Techtech
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posted 05-08-2006 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Techtech   Click Here to Email Techtech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remove your instrument cluster and check the solder joints on the back of the cluster main board. You may have to flex the board to see the cracks in the solder. Go read the tip on your code number for a 1998 grand voyager at http://d-tips.com

Its quick and free to sign up and they have some great pattern failure tips.

TechTech

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98PVOYA
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posted 05-09-2006 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 98PVOYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Techtech,

Thank you. I did removed the cluster yesterday and checked all the bulb after I checked the fuses. I did not opened the back or check the board because I don't know that I have to. Maybe that's the problem because it has an intermitent non-illumination of the cluster, gauges does not work sometimes and ABS light stay on. But after I removed the cluster and installed it back, everything works like a charm. I did not test drove yet so I don't know if the proble will come back.

I also checked the wiring between the PCM and TCM as Jeff recommended and all looks okay - no rusted or damaged wires.

I will go back and check the cluster board per your recommendation and I will let you know.

Your respond was in time for me to update Jeff,as I promised, of what I've done so far. Thank you gentlemen for your commitment to help others. BTW, thanks also for the link.

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98PVOYA
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posted 05-12-2006 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 98PVOYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I spent a good 2 hours flexing and magnifying the cluster board but found nothing cracked or unusual. However, I resoldered the electrical connection and found one of the connector pin's solder was not tight or not soldered very well. Resoldered all the pins and put it back together and seems that it fixed the problem. I will let you know if it will come back.

Thank you for both of you for your outstanding insight and expertise.

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Peter Mate
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posted 09-04-2006 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Mate   Click Here to Email Peter Mate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 98PVOYA:
I spent a good 2 hours flexing and magnifying the cluster board but found nothing cracked or unusual. However, I resoldered the electrical connection and found one of the connector pin's solder was not tight or not soldered very well. Resoldered all the pins and put it back together and seems that it fixed the problem. I will let you know if it will come back.

Thank you for both of you for your outstanding insight and expertise.


Hi!
Would you please tell me exactly where is that electrical connection./Maybe photo/I have a same problem in my same car.
Thank you very much.
Sorry my English.

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98PVOYA
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posted 09-05-2006 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 98PVOYA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mate,

Sorry, I did not take pictures. Remove the instrument cluster, open the back of the cluster and remove the cluster's electronic board. Resolder all the pins (elec connector to the board) of the back of the electrical connector (power supply - its only one. When done, check the solders to make sure they are not overlapping each other. Reassemble.

I've been driving the van and everything went okay. It fixed the problem.

Good luck!

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Peter Mate
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posted 09-11-2006 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter Mate   Click Here to Email Peter Mate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thak You Very Much!!

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